Hi Nayeem– I don’t know about that kind of permesso, but it should be in the booklet. So it is valid for one year, but that year is eaten away by many of the steps. Do you know if it’s a problem to pick the residence permit after the date they send in the SMS? Then you have to pay 27.50. CREATIVITY Presented by PERSON for COMPANY IL PERMESSO di soggiorno IL PERMESSO di soggiorno che cos'é IL PERMESSO di soggiorno ? I am in a tricky situation, I go back to Milan for university on September (as soon as I get there I’ll begin the process of renewing it), and my PdS expires in October, but I want to go back home for a couple of weeks in December/January for the holidays, and if my PdS takes as long as the last time (6 months), I will have nothing but the receipt as a travel document, besides my passport. I do not speak fluent Italian…. I know Bologna and Rome will be different in terms of cost of living, but if you have any advice on making that $6k stretch, I would appreciate it! Hi Kaitlan, You can travel with the receipt as proof! At last a step by step guide. If you are in Rome, you can get the Rome questura by taking Metro B to Rebibbia. 4. These are the steps to follow when you already have a visa for Italy for more than 3 months. However, we applied a bit late (for a variety of reasons), and so we will be in Italy up to 6 weeks before we hear about whether we get our visas or not. Thanks again. I got this blog on very right time as I am in the middle of this process. Hello Natalie, This is because you have to convert your visa (which grants you access into the country) to a permit of stay (which allows you to actually stay in the country). I asked the guy at the Poste if I could request for an earlier appointment date, he said its the computer who automatically gives schedule. If you already have permission to work in Europe, take the plunge and you can figure it out and apply in person here. I do not know about that one. Hi Claudia – to get a permesso, you will have to get a visa from the consulate in your area before you arrive. To be honest, I am not sure. For me, I applied here in Milan (in late March 2018) and had to wait 3 months for my appointment at the Questura. I was feeling very lost trying to find out how to do all this, it is doing my brain in! we own a house here and I have the right to live here in italy. Tracy. No, you just need to register for residency at the anagrafe and can get a carta d’identita from there. Thank you Natalie. We are not eligible for a student visa because the course is only 6 weeks. Hi Natalie, I am EU Citizen, my wife is from China, and we’re preparing to move to Italy as our daughter will soon start at the Accademia di Belle Arti di Roma, for 4 years. I am thinking cover for self, wife (daughter I need understand that situ re her Art University in Rome), what would be good ideas? Hi Austin – not at all! Hi Derick – you need some kind of ID. Include a copy of your contract. Is it a problem if I cannot go on that particular date? You have already answered many questions but I’m afraid that I still have quite a list of them. Required fields are marked *. After receiving my PdS, I will apply for citizenship via jure sanguinis. Vuoi sapere se il permesso di soggiorno è pronto per la consegna?Molti cittadini extracomunitari dopo aver presentato il Kit allo sportello amico della posta, si chiedono come mai il permesso di soggiorno in richiesta è ancora in corso di … This is because you have to convert your visa (which grants you access into the country) to a permit of stay (which allows you to actually stay in the country). Ricongiungimento familiare e Coesione familiare. Love this information! Again, do not panic. Are you saying that this would be impossible and that you 100% need a visa? It has been issued? Remember to bring your passport and your receipt! if issued only for the duration of her student visa, would be expired by then?). It is possible to apply for the Pemesso di Soggiorno for stay more than 90 days? Thank you in advance. I didn’t have to include any residency info when applying for my actual visa. Thanks for your article, can i apply for permesso without “the real” address ? Thoughts? Don’t get suckered into thinking all of Europe is an orgasmic paradise of wonderful mass transit. Here is how you can get your very own Permesso di Soggiorno (Italian permit for stays longer than 3 months): Within 8 days of moving to Italy, you have to apply for your permesso. Otherwise you need to find a way to notify them and be issued a new date and time. The waiting is the worst! Please,I would like to know what to do if I miss my appointment date and time due to unforeseen circumstances? I mean, i have a place to stay, but i dont have a contract with the landlord. The time to be ” legal ” in this country is absolutely too much . Since I need to establish residency in Rome and plan to stay for more than 90 days I requested a Visa which they refused. I know I can’t connect a flight through another Schengen country, like Italy-France-Spain, but am I allowed to travel at all outside of Italy? Your post says the receipt will allow you to pick the packet up once you Thank you so much for the info. I’m making it sound like I’m looking to be a total loafer or Cosmo Kramer in Italy (I’m not, I promise! Hi Anik! Public transit in Rome is a joke. Our goal is to live in Italy for a year, strongly leaning towards Rome. I appreciate your thoughts, and I’m sorry if the question has already been addressed in this very popular thread. (without the permesso being on hand) ? Hello Natalie! Go figure. I’ve tried to look for an answer everywhere but seem to be getting nowhere! If it isn’t I would presume that I would only _need_ health insurance for the couple of months it takes to get the PdS. They might offer something ‘in nero’ or under the table, but that will likely be low wages and might get you both in trouble. I would suggest being in touch with the Italian embassy in Australia just to confirm if you need anything before departure or if you can apply for the carta di soggiorno (not di permesso) once you arrive. Do you any article on how to get Certificato di idoneita alloggiativa from commune office. Thank you for the prompt reply! I applied for my renewal last week and my appointment is on Dec. 14. However, I was not asked this by the time I got to the permesso application. Hi Natalie, first off GREAT site! Avra grossi problemi dovra passare per la commisione oppure e una procedura facile? I have a similar question to Daniel. I submitted the necessary documents to the Italian Consulate in my state of residence to reacquire my Italian Citizenship which they accepted and received a stamped “DICHIARAZIONE DI RIACQUISTO DELLA CITTADINANZA ITALIANA”. I am assuming I have my CF, Get a home fast in Anzio 50km south west of Roma where I have Italian friends, Go to Anagrafe in Anzio to register my residency and go thru’ that process – and that should be all. Do you think it is necessary to apply for a permesso di soggiorno? I would like to make a few weekend trips outside of Italy if possible; however, it seems that it takes forever to receive it. Hello! Is there any chance you can apply to language schools to teach at before you arrive? So it seems like your german residency should allow you to apply from there? For student visas, you can work 20 hours/week and you can look for that work once you get here. Not sure a hostel address will work at the appointment itself. Would you know of the implications or problems that I will encounter when I request a residency permit without a Visa. The application date is assigned, but not usually the pickup date. Never done. Thanks for this information. I want to make sure I have this correct. I have already rented an apartment for 7 months (from febraury 1st – Sept 1st.) Many permessi expire on 12/31 (or at least mine always do) so it seems like as good a time as any to try to wade through the process. Note: I already have an apt lined up for my initial arrival (approx July 2018) and I have retained a lawyer for my js once my residency is official. In five years, I have never written about how to get a permesso di soggiornio because just thinking about it gives me chest pains. from the police station, I have SMS for a date, the hour when I will be there for received permesso di soggiorno but I cannot go to take it on this date. Hi Sam – that should be possible as long as you have all the receipts and supporting documents. In Milan it takes ages, mine took almost six months and I’ve seen people wait up to a year for theirs. I was wondering if you ever found out if it is possible to apply for renewal earlier than 60 days prior to expiry. I have just completed my appointment at the Questura. 1. I’ve just gone through getting permessi for myself and my family. So I thought it is easy for me but the experince was very different. There are several ticket options so make sure you click the correct number. They would only ask for proof that you applied for a permesso if you had stayed much more than 90 days. Il primo passo per ottenere il permesso di soggiorno è quello di presentare regolare domanda tramite kit postale. You can only get a permesso with a visa – so the first step would be to request a family unification visa from the Italian embassy in your country of residence now. I’m in a similar situation as yourself. My fiance from Rome (Italian citizen) and i (US citizen) are planning our wedding in September. I’m an American, and will not be working at this point. Again Thanks a bunch !! I usually pick my up from my own questura any time after it is ready… not at an assigned time and date. 2. I’ll be travelling back stateside for the months of June-September, and my PDS expires on the 23rd of September. I went to the post office today and got my “kit” – I seriously would have had no clue without this article! I arrived 15 minutes early and they were 3 hours behind schedule. Question on the health insurance. I think back then it was 800 euro/month. I am a type 1 diabetic. If you are EU, you don’t need a visa, you simply need to register once to come to Italy and you can also begin looking for work. And this process is repeatable how many times? Hi there, I am a student in Italy, applied the permesso in June and had my fingerprinted in early July. Documenti per visto e permesso di soggiorno , se necessario. Here is how you can get your very own Permesso di Soggiorno (Italian permit for stays longer than 3 months): Within 8 days of moving to Italy, you have to apply for your permesso. What we are trying to determine is the best and legally acceptable way for my daughter’s upcoming travel to Italy. I’ve scoured every last website, both private and those of the italian state, and can’t find a definitive answer as to whether or not applying for renewal EARLIER than 60 days prior is possible. This may result in Visa not getting back in time for her initial travel Wishing you the best of luck in Italy! Finish submitting for her student visa for Jan-June while still in USA Good luck! I see someone has already asked about needing a fixed address – can you please elaborate on this? Hello! 3 – within 20 days of receipt of PdS, go to Anagrafe Hi, Natalie. I have a question — Is it possible to obtain a Carta d’identita from the Anagafe using the receipt from a PdS (actually a CdS in my specific case), or must one have the actual released PdS/CdS to get the CdI?? Hi Daniel! Also, I am studying here and my visa has been issued for 89 days (the length of the course), even though I didn’t need to get a student visa I did so I would have another 90 days to spend travelling on my schengen visa. Thank you for posting! You can be in Italy as an American (and many other country citizens) for 90 days in a 180 period. How are you supposed to get one then? One of these was a letter from my landlord saying I had permission to live in the house. To just take the plunge and move there– plain and simple? CORREZIONE DEL PERMESSO DI SOGGIORNO O DELLA CARTA DI SOGGIORNO. My question is this: what do I have to do to prove this? When I arrived, I waited 2 hours, and then was told there was some problem and I had to come back the next day instead. many thanks. The paperwork in Italy is never done. Once you arrive at the Poste Italiane take a ticket from one of the machines in the lobby-area. A book and a snack are always advised! Etc. Are you sure about you response? Dreamtrips alias Worldaventures esperienze? I am in the same predicament, here on a working holiday visa so my intention is to travel around for the first 3 months and means I don’t have a fixed address. you enter the country as a tourist and then apply right? I want to make sure I have this correct. Oh I should add here in China at the Embassy/Consulate seems they can process Codice Fiscale, I got email back with the requisite form, in Word thus translatable these days. Altro, Rispondi a: Correzione dati sul permessodi soggiorno. My daughter and I are beyond frustrated with not being able to get a straight answer on the following anywhere, including from the Italian Consulate and the US Department of State. 10/01/2018: Sportello per Convocazioni PSE "Permesso di Soggiorno Elettronico" e pratiche di competenza della Questura aperto al pubblico con i seguenti orari: dal lunedì al venerdì dalla ore 8.30 ale ore 12.00 e mercoledì pomeriggio dalle ore 14.30 alle ore 16.30 (apertura riservata esclusivamente agli utenti . Can you tell me if is the problem, can i delay the date for received permesso? I will enter, as always, with my American passport that will be stamped in my entrance to Italy. Garbatella and Monteverde (also Monteverde Vecchio) are quite nice. Your permesso is tied to your type of visa. It is very helpful Will I be able to pick the appointment date for the Questra? Hi Emily — I am so glad it is helpful! Situation – going to Italy as an Au Pair – needs to be there Sept ’18-Sept ’19 You will be able to depart on your passport. Thank you so much for the reply. REALLY. Applying for a student Visa – must take language classes = 20 hr/week Ciao. On the appointed day and time, take your receipt from the post office, your supporting document copies (school letter, work contract, etc), your passport and 4 Italian passport sized photos to the questura. Wonderful!! 2 – apply for PdS immediately after arrival (keep the receipt!) I’m also being told that we will not be eligible for a visa because we don’t have a documented reason to stay beyond 90 days. Il permesso di soggiorno elettronico è stato adottato a decorrere dall’11 dicembre 2006 ed è stato attribuito all’Istituto poligrafico e Zecca dello Stato il compito di produrre e attivare il documento, previa acquisizione dei dati concernenti l’identificazione del richiedente da parte delle questure. Do you have to show it at the airport? Bit quieter but still reasonably connected (though sometimes a long wait for the bus…). More information is available on the Portale Immigrazione in Italian. modulo da compilare (FAX-SIMILE) … It is the visa that is converted into permesso di soggiorno. Hi Natalie, I came to Italy one month back and going through all the nightmare. Use re-entry Visa. Once inside, you will go through a quick security screening. If I apply once I get back to Rome on the 14th of October will that be ok? I am from Albania and i have found a work contract in Italy . No one told me I need to bring copies of other things with me. Hi Natalie, Hi Hassan – the issue is not getting the permesso. We are retirees and have means to support ourselves as well as health insurance. I know the feelings of stress which is why I tried to lay out the steps! Is there a chance my appointment date will fall on a day when I am not back in Rome? A traveling companion and I are planning to go to Italy for a 6 week art course in Florence. (I apologize for my delayed response– I only now saw that you had responded forever ago!). Carta prepagata e Prenotazioni alberghiere. For school? The price keeps changing so just show the form at the tabbachi and they will be able to give you the right version (it currently costs €14.62). Obviously it would help with the paperwork to have a job in the city, but tell me– Is it possible to move to Rome without marrying an Italian or having employment already lined up? Morning appointments tend to be more on time, but by afternoon they are always running behind schedule. It happens all the time. Its been more than a month I have applied in Questura. My boyfriend lives in Rome, so I have a “landing place”, but I am wondering if it is possible for me to enter Italy in advance with the student visa in order to find a place to live and get settled in. You have to go to a Post Office with a special window called a Sportello Amico. Vediamo insieme le differenze tra carta di soggiorno e permesso di soggiorno. It is not possible to apply without a visa. That might be something to keep in mind if you want more permanent work. Mio compagno all ingresso via mare alla richiesta del asilo e permesso di soggiorno, ha fornito una data di nascita sbagliata (motivo deceso improvviso dei genitori, che precedentemente l'hanno adottato e partenza improvvisa dal paese, praticamente scappato dopo il deceso violento dei genitori). Now I am in the process of reapplying for the visa here in the US and your blog was super helpful in reminding me of the Permesso process once I get there….Im near Perugia but same stuff applies. Copy any documents about why you are in Italy. Copy your passport. Just keep in mind that you should keep the proof of application with you if you are traveling in and out of Italy. Go to the Post Office (ugh). Your quip about reveling in the glory for a few months till you have to start again made me smile. Do you have only a residency certificate? 01/02/2014 05:28 pm ET Updated Mar 04, 2014 I wait with them, under the first pink streaks of sunrise. I am trying to find out how i can stay in Rome pass the 3 month visa. 13. I probably will not be working. Do I have to attend a language course? Congrats! Hi Natalie, I know, I know; everybody’s need/circumstances differ, yadda yadda. My question is after taking pErmesso di soggiorno do you have to get also residence from the commune. However the other requirement is that you prove you posses an A2 level knowledge of the Italian language. Then you can apply for the permesso. Thank you! Pingback: 7 Things You Can Do at an Italian Tabacchi – An American in Rome. Hello natalie, please if i may i need a fast reply, is it ok to miss the appointment for the permit ? Signing this requires you to attend a few Italian civics and life classes, which I assume is simply a matter of showing up and staying to the end of the class (no tests required as far as I know). The permission we seek is that of living legally in Italy. Thanks, Within our 90 day allowed stay, we applied for residency. Will that be a problem? It is the visa terms that are converted into the permesso. I’m 100% ITALIAN and I never find out how simple is to get a resident permit , ( permesso di soggiorno ) I move in usa ?? Just wanted to confirm I don’t need fotocopie of the modulo 1 that I Garbatella is on Metro Line B – a few stops on from Colosseo. I’m retired with an Elective VisaI and currently am waiting for approval of my PdS. Hi Natalie, Are you qualified to answer the questions? Hi Natalie, I have come to Italy through a Family Reunion Visa and I have applied for my PSD but I have a single entry visa can I come back to Italy to collect my PSD with my post office receipt? This is a stamp with a monetary value that they will affix to one of the forms at the post office. I can’t believe the point between the post office step and the meeting at the questura is so fast in Rome! I was told that they would get in contact with me when the receive my kit and didn’t receive a reply. You always need a plan B in Italy. “cross” with a fifth arm expressing to Fiumicino airport. Amazing blog! Thanks for your help! However, the process is slowly getting better and it remains one of those necessities of life in Italy as a foreigner. That is fine – they will keep it for you at the station near your home. Hi Natalie, Hi Lauren, I think I had to bring the same documents that I included in my visa application. You have to include a photocopy of the visa in your permesso application, so personally I would wait until you have it in hand. I understand that one needs a non-tourist visa first before applying for a permesso. I’m in US holder and I’m in Italy and I’m applying for permesso but I no one want hire me or give me contract before I get my permesso, also is it easy for Americans to get the permesso in italy. 2) Some sites say that private health insurance will cost you $10,000/year. SO TRUE! If so, does she need to start the whole PdS process for this 90 day period, the full year- long intended stay, or not at all at this point? 12. 10. I’m wondering what you meant at the end of your post by “start the process over again” after a few months. I have been looking at doing this recently and dreading it and here is your generous and easy to follow guidelines. Any info about this will be helpful. Hi Natalie, thanks for your speedy response! Hi Natalie, Can you point me in the right direction? Can one travel to other Schengen countries while the permesso di soggiorno is being processed? Once you have a PdS, you don’t have to keep going through the visa process, but you do need a visa issued by a consulate for your first PdS. Do they ask for proof that you are staying at that address? I tried to track it online they showing in process. Anyway thank you very much for the information and it would be very helpfull if i i can contact you for more information. A visa is what is converted into the permesso di soggiorno. Hi Emerald, as far as I understand the process – it is the opposite. Claudia. That requires an EU passport or a visa, normally. It's updated daily so why not come along and join the party? Thanks, Hi Sandra – I have this now and I think once all my documentation was approved, it only took about two weeks before I was able to pick it up at the questura. Or, put a bit differently: How lenient are the officials in granting a permesso di soggiorno to someone who is in the process of looking for employment? Good luck! Thank you for posting about this. Is there a minimum staying limit(180+1day) or you can come and go as you wish? You would not qualify for national healthcare and so would have to prove that you are covered by private health insurance in order to apply for the visa/permesso. Thank you. Although Rome is trying to improve and expand its subway system, it’s basically a You must now sign an Accordo di Immigrazione form at the Questura. Hi again The Rome questura has vastly improved and now has screens that will flash your name and the number of the desk you are meant to approach when it is finally your turn. It is extremely helpful in knowing what to expect in obtaining a permesso de soggiorno. Hi Julie – unless there is a critical issue, I would suggest you do everything in your power to go to the original appointment. What a great blog, so many helpful pages! How can we do this without a visa. Bring a letter from your university with the dates of your enrollment. Thank you. Per tutte le tipologie di aggiornamento, è necessario ritirare presso gli uffici postali un apposito Kit, del quale compilare solo il “modulo 1”, ed aggiungere ad esso la documentazione ulteriore, che varia in base alla ragione per la quale si procede all’aggiornamento. Vediamo insieme in questa completa guida come convertire il permesso di soggiorno in carta di soggiorno permanente.Il permesso di soggiorno consente, agli stranieri e agli apolidi, presenti sul territorio dello Stato italiano di rimanere in Italia; alle condizioni e … Ciao. You sound like you are all set. Not every tabbachi has the machine to print bolli so don’t panic if you strike out. Thanks. Hi David – uau. Is it possible to reschedule the appointment with the Questura? Hi Natalie – best info I have been able to find – so thank you. I’m moving to Rome with my soon-to-be-husband. Really. And how many times can one renew? 3) Do you have any suggestions or recommendations for private health insurance? For work permit how long may i wait ? I am sure it will all go well for you — good luck!
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